Comments on: City Council: Vote Yes to Property Rights, No to Neo-Puritan South Dallas Jihadists http://www.treygarrison.com/2009/01/city-council-vote-yes-to-property-rights-no-to-neo-puritan-south-dallas-jihadists/ Plausibly Undeniable Thu, 17 Nov 2011 03:57:22 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Rawlins Gilliland http://www.treygarrison.com/2009/01/city-council-vote-yes-to-property-rights-no-to-neo-puritan-south-dallas-jihadists/comment-page-1/#comment-1189 Rawlins Gilliland Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:29:07 +0000 http://www.treygarrison.com/?p=1122#comment-1189 Southeast Dallas (which includes Pleasant Grove as one of its 8 componet neighborhoods) was for years a higher crime scene than most of Dallas... despite being 'dry'. Today it is (second only to downtown's small division, per 2008 ) Dallas' next to lowest crime area. Despite being dry. "Blue Moon." Southeast Dallas (which includes Pleasant Grove as one of its 8 componet neighborhoods) was for years a higher crime scene than most of Dallas… despite being ‘dry’. Today it is (second only to downtown’s small division, per 2008 ) Dallas’ next to lowest crime area. Despite being dry. “Blue Moon.”

]]> By: Amy S http://www.treygarrison.com/2009/01/city-council-vote-yes-to-property-rights-no-to-neo-puritan-south-dallas-jihadists/comment-page-1/#comment-1179 Amy S Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:56:42 +0000 http://www.treygarrison.com/?p=1122#comment-1179 Whoops, second link was supposed to be: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/tv/stories/DN-alcohol_30met.ART.State.Edition1.4d52d96.html Whoops, second link was supposed to be: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/tv/stories/DN-alcohol_30met.ART.State.Edition1.4d52d96.html

]]> By: Amy S http://www.treygarrison.com/2009/01/city-council-vote-yes-to-property-rights-no-to-neo-puritan-south-dallas-jihadists/comment-page-1/#comment-1178 Amy S Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:55:18 +0000 http://www.treygarrison.com/?p=1122#comment-1178 I disagree with the moratorium, but you can't deny there isn't a disparity in "wet" areas between north and south Dallas. This very disparity creates a zone of multiple bars and liquor stores in those areas where it can be sold. I would love to have that little sports bar at Preston-Forest, as would many of my neighbors, but they'd never be licensed there. Restaurants (licensed as a club), yes, bars, no. I would love to be able to go to the Whole Foods or Tom Thumb and pick up a bottle or 6 pack - instead I drive to Addison, which is closer than any of the other wet areas inside Dallas and give them the sales tax proceeds. Fear of change keeps the status quo, but look at other cities that do not have these restrictions on trade (Plano, Southlake), they have not ended up with doom and destruction since they changed their liquor laws. In fact much of the beer & wine sales have shifted away from small stores to larger grocers and discounters. There is a lot of money tied into real estate in wet areas, to have the rest of Dallas equalized would negate the mini-monopolies that landlords in Dallas and the 'burbs have enjoyed in these areas. Anyone else remember the battle of Buckingham? How about the county commissioners fight to invalidate a petition to change the wet/dry laws last fall? http://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/AA/vaa2.html . History of Dallas "dry" movement http://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/AA/vaa2.html I disagree with the moratorium, but you can’t deny there isn’t a disparity in “wet” areas between north and south Dallas. This very disparity creates a zone of multiple bars and liquor stores in those areas where it can be sold. I would love to have that little sports bar at Preston-Forest, as would many of my neighbors, but they’d never be licensed there. Restaurants (licensed as a club), yes, bars, no. I would love to be able to go to the Whole Foods or Tom Thumb and pick up a bottle or 6 pack – instead I drive to Addison, which is closer than any of the other wet areas inside Dallas and give them the sales tax proceeds.

Fear of change keeps the status quo, but look at other cities that do not have these restrictions on trade (Plano, Southlake), they have not ended up with doom and destruction since they changed their liquor laws. In fact much of the beer & wine sales have shifted away from small stores to larger grocers and discounters. There is a lot of money tied into real estate in wet areas, to have the rest of Dallas equalized would negate the mini-monopolies that landlords in Dallas and the ‘burbs have enjoyed in these areas.

Anyone else remember the battle of Buckingham? How about the county commissioners fight to invalidate a petition to change the wet/dry laws last fall? http://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/AA/vaa2.html .

History of Dallas “dry” movement http://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/AA/vaa2.html

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