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	<title>Comments on: Is the Ellis County Observer editing reader comments to insert cheap insults?</title>
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		<title>By: jojo</title>
		<link>http://www.treygarrison.com/2009/01/is-the-ellis-county-observer-editing-reader-comments-to-insert-cheap-insults/comment-page-1/#comment-1404</link>
		<dc:creator>jojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The editor of the publication is ultimately responsible for what goes out in print under the publication.  Emotions aside, someone should read all articles and statements before they go to &quot;print&quot;.  The observer is to blame that it was not caught, and should apologize and not make light of the situation.  

A person who has been in war with actions such as this will not take lightly any more slander.  The ECO should know how his wound has not yet healed and then to take a knife and cut it open again will warrant some anger.  Going after his family shows how inconsiderate, immature, and evil you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The editor of the publication is ultimately responsible for what goes out in print under the publication.  Emotions aside, someone should read all articles and statements before they go to &#8220;print&#8221;.  The observer is to blame that it was not caught, and should apologize and not make light of the situation.  </p>
<p>A person who has been in war with actions such as this will not take lightly any more slander.  The ECO should know how his wound has not yet healed and then to take a knife and cut it open again will warrant some anger.  Going after his family shows how inconsiderate, immature, and evil you are.</p>
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		<title>By: ryy</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Amanda I clicked on your name and found your site-winner of the 2008 Katie Award!   Congratulations!</description>
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		<title>By: CB</title>
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		<dc:creator>CB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda, I was very impressed to see that you won the Katie Award in 2008.  Good job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda, I was very impressed to see that you won the Katie Award in 2008.  Good job!</p>
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		<title>By: amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Joey, you&#039;re playing with the big kids over here, okay? You know...professional writers and editors... I find the alterations of Johnson&#039;s comments to be the lowest form of TABLOID tactics. You are no better than the &quot;Weekly World News.&quot;

I also find your constant need to insert yourself into the news to be embarrassing...for you. I am incredulous that you asked for gas money to go to college. I went to school in NH, and let me tell you, they are going to eat you alive. What&#039;s next? Are you planning on holding a raffle to buy your books when you get up there?

Here&#039;s some advice kid: decide if you want to &quot;be&quot; the news or &quot;report&quot; the news, and regardless which path you take, do it well. Put on your big-boy britches, and act with dignity...something you&#039;ve failed to do so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Joey, you&#8217;re playing with the big kids over here, okay? You know&#8230;professional writers and editors&#8230; I find the alterations of Johnson&#8217;s comments to be the lowest form of TABLOID tactics. You are no better than the &#8220;Weekly World News.&#8221;</p>
<p>I also find your constant need to insert yourself into the news to be embarrassing&#8230;for you. I am incredulous that you asked for gas money to go to college. I went to school in NH, and let me tell you, they are going to eat you alive. What&#8217;s next? Are you planning on holding a raffle to buy your books when you get up there?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some advice kid: decide if you want to &#8220;be&#8221; the news or &#8220;report&#8221; the news, and regardless which path you take, do it well. Put on your big-boy britches, and act with dignity&#8230;something you&#8217;ve failed to do so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey Dauben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey Dauben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, let&#039;s once again rehash everything: 

1) I was in Austin with one of my reporters, Megan Gray. In fact, I was on the phone with Jay Hoskins, another reporter, in Temple, on I-35 (he was on his way to Houston, and was therefore on I-45), before, on and during the time in which Keith Johnson&#039;s post appeared on the ECO.

2) My webmaster was on the road in West Texas.

There are only two people with access to the administrative control panel on the ECO. One of them is me. One of them is the webmaster.

We can keep going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, but this is what I found: a post by Keith Johnson at 7:32 a.m. That&#039;s what it was. There was no record, no mention, nothing ...of that comment being edited (and the admin panel shows if comments were &quot;last updated.&quot; 


All I can tell you people is that I did not edit squat. And from what I have gathered, nobody else, either. 

Those who know me and the Observer will know I am not beholden to any governmental entity. Those who also know the Observer (Ellis County&#039;s, not Dallas, by the way) will know that it is separate from The Ellis County Press. 

Yes, I am the news editor at the ECP.

Yes, I am the publisher of the ECO blog.

And yes, both are legitimate media outlets.

Keith, you&#039;ve done this before. You have complained that you were being attacked and then when you didn&#039;t get your way, you went griping to the media. That&#039;s fine, you&#039;re well within your rights to do that.


But you and your wife crossed the line by using fake screen names to do the VERY thing you accuse those ROISD parents of doing.

And now you are going to be made a public spectacle. Because when I&#039;m done with my open records requests, your wife&#039;s e-mails will be published from her work e-mail account. 

Your open records request is next with Dallas PD. 


You are simply picking a fight with the wrong newspaper and the wrong blog. You can disagree with me all day long, you can bash my viewpoints all day long, but this edited-comment thing has gone from bad to worse, and it is because you are threatening to get a lawyer involved in this.

Well, I hope everyone gets a lawyer, because that&#039;ll be a perfect opportunity for the discovery process, and then we&#039;ll be able to see all sorts of good stuff.


I&#039;m not attacking your family, Keith. You are a public employee, as is your wife. Now you will be scrutinized as one, and anything you send, receive or mention using your work computer or work e-mail will now be privvy to the open records request.

People don&#039;t like the Observer because It&#039;s The Ellis County Press on steroids, and in an hourly format. 

I launched this blog in October of 2005 and have literally built it into one of the most widely read blogs in Texas (BlogNetNews.com has the rankings...)

I didn&#039;t get there because I edit people&#039;s comments, or put out lies. I&#039;ve done more blogging for Corrupt Red Oak ISD-related stuff than anyone ever has thought about doing, so you remember that Keith. 

You seem to forget, or others seem to want to forget, that the only blog/media outlet to even give a damn was me and the Observer.


And I&#039;ve already mentioned, if I found out one of my contributors or editors edited someone&#039;s comment, I would roast their ass publicly for it. 

But, I didn&#039;t do it, and the people who have access to that admin panel were all on the highway at the time. 


Again, I want the record to show that Joey Dauben and the ECO have been the only entities who have even given Keith Johnson and his wife a platform to stand on.

I can provide the links to that coverage if anyone would like (or you can simply put in a search in the ECO search bar.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, let&#8217;s once again rehash everything: </p>
<p>1) I was in Austin with one of my reporters, Megan Gray. In fact, I was on the phone with Jay Hoskins, another reporter, in Temple, on I-35 (he was on his way to Houston, and was therefore on I-45), before, on and during the time in which Keith Johnson&#8217;s post appeared on the ECO.</p>
<p>2) My webmaster was on the road in West Texas.</p>
<p>There are only two people with access to the administrative control panel on the ECO. One of them is me. One of them is the webmaster.</p>
<p>We can keep going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, but this is what I found: a post by Keith Johnson at 7:32 a.m. That&#8217;s what it was. There was no record, no mention, nothing &#8230;of that comment being edited (and the admin panel shows if comments were &#8220;last updated.&#8221; </p>
<p>All I can tell you people is that I did not edit squat. And from what I have gathered, nobody else, either. </p>
<p>Those who know me and the Observer will know I am not beholden to any governmental entity. Those who also know the Observer (Ellis County&#8217;s, not Dallas, by the way) will know that it is separate from The Ellis County Press. </p>
<p>Yes, I am the news editor at the ECP.</p>
<p>Yes, I am the publisher of the ECO blog.</p>
<p>And yes, both are legitimate media outlets.</p>
<p>Keith, you&#8217;ve done this before. You have complained that you were being attacked and then when you didn&#8217;t get your way, you went griping to the media. That&#8217;s fine, you&#8217;re well within your rights to do that.</p>
<p>But you and your wife crossed the line by using fake screen names to do the VERY thing you accuse those ROISD parents of doing.</p>
<p>And now you are going to be made a public spectacle. Because when I&#8217;m done with my open records requests, your wife&#8217;s e-mails will be published from her work e-mail account. </p>
<p>Your open records request is next with Dallas PD. </p>
<p>You are simply picking a fight with the wrong newspaper and the wrong blog. You can disagree with me all day long, you can bash my viewpoints all day long, but this edited-comment thing has gone from bad to worse, and it is because you are threatening to get a lawyer involved in this.</p>
<p>Well, I hope everyone gets a lawyer, because that&#8217;ll be a perfect opportunity for the discovery process, and then we&#8217;ll be able to see all sorts of good stuff.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not attacking your family, Keith. You are a public employee, as is your wife. Now you will be scrutinized as one, and anything you send, receive or mention using your work computer or work e-mail will now be privvy to the open records request.</p>
<p>People don&#8217;t like the Observer because It&#8217;s The Ellis County Press on steroids, and in an hourly format. </p>
<p>I launched this blog in October of 2005 and have literally built it into one of the most widely read blogs in Texas (BlogNetNews.com has the rankings&#8230;)</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t get there because I edit people&#8217;s comments, or put out lies. I&#8217;ve done more blogging for Corrupt Red Oak ISD-related stuff than anyone ever has thought about doing, so you remember that Keith. </p>
<p>You seem to forget, or others seem to want to forget, that the only blog/media outlet to even give a damn was me and the Observer.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve already mentioned, if I found out one of my contributors or editors edited someone&#8217;s comment, I would roast their ass publicly for it. </p>
<p>But, I didn&#8217;t do it, and the people who have access to that admin panel were all on the highway at the time. </p>
<p>Again, I want the record to show that Joey Dauben and the ECO have been the only entities who have even given Keith Johnson and his wife a platform to stand on.</p>
<p>I can provide the links to that coverage if anyone would like (or you can simply put in a search in the ECO search bar.)</p>
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		<title>By: keith johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.treygarrison.com/2009/01/is-the-ellis-county-observer-editing-reader-comments-to-insert-cheap-insults/comment-page-1/#comment-1040</link>
		<dc:creator>keith johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 05:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My email to Charles Hatfield, the publisher/editor of the Ellic County Press


Hatfield, Dauben already posted on his little blog an email you sent me, so obviously you shared it with him.Dauben IS the news editor of the Ellis County Press, I sent him information as the editor of the Ellis County Press, and he in turn posted it on his blog.&quot;Freelance&quot; or whatever is nothing but semantics with me, when I send an email to the editor of the ECP I have every right to assume that letter is going to the editor of the ECP, not the muckraker of the ECO.Dauben is now coming after my wife, and this is starting to get real, real ugly.  Dauben wants my wife&#039;s public email exchanges, which of course are subject to open record.What we are watching for now are ALTERED exchanges from her email posted  on that blog, as happened to me, and we&#039;re also concerned what personal info he may get that he could share with his coworkers, like SS#, address phone number etc that could endanger her.We have no reason whatsoever to trust Dauben or the company he keeps, some that you employ as &quot;freelance&quot; &quot;reporters&quot; with any of our personal information.Dauben&#039;s email address, the only one I have that I have sent information to, is identified as the ECP news editor. Dauben&#039;s signature 
He [Joey Dauben] can make or break your political career.&quot; - Midlothian Councilman Ken Chambers

Joey Dauben
News Editor
The Ellis County Press
208 S. Central Ave.
Ferris, TX 75125
Phone: 972-544-2369
Fax: 972-544-8150

Cell: 972-891-2135
joeydauben@hotmail.com
elliscountypress.com
elliscountyobserver.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My email to Charles Hatfield, the publisher/editor of the Ellic County Press</p>
<p>Hatfield, Dauben already posted on his little blog an email you sent me, so obviously you shared it with him.Dauben IS the news editor of the Ellis County Press, I sent him information as the editor of the Ellis County Press, and he in turn posted it on his blog.&#8221;Freelance&#8221; or whatever is nothing but semantics with me, when I send an email to the editor of the ECP I have every right to assume that letter is going to the editor of the ECP, not the muckraker of the ECO.Dauben is now coming after my wife, and this is starting to get real, real ugly.  Dauben wants my wife&#8217;s public email exchanges, which of course are subject to open record.What we are watching for now are ALTERED exchanges from her email posted  on that blog, as happened to me, and we&#8217;re also concerned what personal info he may get that he could share with his coworkers, like SS#, address phone number etc that could endanger her.We have no reason whatsoever to trust Dauben or the company he keeps, some that you employ as &#8220;freelance&#8221; &#8220;reporters&#8221; with any of our personal information.Dauben&#8217;s email address, the only one I have that I have sent information to, is identified as the ECP news editor. Dauben&#8217;s signature<br />
He [Joey Dauben] can make or break your political career.&#8221; &#8211; Midlothian Councilman Ken Chambers</p>
<p>Joey Dauben<br />
News Editor<br />
The Ellis County Press<br />
208 S. Central Ave.<br />
Ferris, TX 75125<br />
Phone: 972-544-2369<br />
Fax: 972-544-8150</p>
<p>Cell: 972-891-2135<br />
<a href="mailto:joeydauben@hotmail.com">joeydauben@hotmail.com</a><br />
elliscountypress.com<br />
elliscountyobserver.com</p>
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		<title>By: keith johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>keith johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 02:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My deep concern is that Dauben may post some of my wife&#039;s personal information that may or may not be gleaned from getting her work email, or that Dauben may &quot;alter&quot; some of her information like he or his coworkers did with me, which is the topic of this thread.
I posted above that Hatfield is the owner of the Ellis County Press, apparantly I was wrong about that, but Hatfield is listed as the publisher/editor of the Ellis County Press.
Hatfield feels he is not resonsible for any of this, because even though the paper itself lists Dauben as the news editor, and Dauben identifies himself as such, Hatfield maintains Dauben is free lance and Hatfield is not resonsible for Daubens actions.
When I emailed Dauben, I felt I was emaiing the news editor of the ECP, not the Dauben of the ECO, yet Dauben splashed my email all over the ECO.
This is Daubens signature on his email

Joey Dauben
News Editor
The Ellis County Press
208 S. Central Ave.
Ferris, TX 75125
Phone: 972-544-2369
Fax: 972-544-8150</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My deep concern is that Dauben may post some of my wife&#8217;s personal information that may or may not be gleaned from getting her work email, or that Dauben may &#8220;alter&#8221; some of her information like he or his coworkers did with me, which is the topic of this thread.<br />
I posted above that Hatfield is the owner of the Ellis County Press, apparantly I was wrong about that, but Hatfield is listed as the publisher/editor of the Ellis County Press.<br />
Hatfield feels he is not resonsible for any of this, because even though the paper itself lists Dauben as the news editor, and Dauben identifies himself as such, Hatfield maintains Dauben is free lance and Hatfield is not resonsible for Daubens actions.<br />
When I emailed Dauben, I felt I was emaiing the news editor of the ECP, not the Dauben of the ECO, yet Dauben splashed my email all over the ECO.<br />
This is Daubens signature on his email</p>
<p>Joey Dauben<br />
News Editor<br />
The Ellis County Press<br />
208 S. Central Ave.<br />
Ferris, TX 75125<br />
Phone: 972-544-2369<br />
Fax: 972-544-8150</p>
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		<title>By: keith johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>keith johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 02:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joey Dauben of the ECO is now coming after my family.
This is a snippet from his blog.  My only concern here is what he may do with incidental information he may find on my wife.
This is getting weird.

Then we find out today the screen name of maypearlmadman was Waxahachie ISD employee Pam Johnson, which an open records request will reveal exactly what all she has been receiving and sending in the form of e-mails from her WISD e-mail address (and yes, it was filed, and yes, I will be awaiting for the results of that request.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joey Dauben of the ECO is now coming after my family.<br />
This is a snippet from his blog.  My only concern here is what he may do with incidental information he may find on my wife.<br />
This is getting weird.</p>
<p>Then we find out today the screen name of maypearlmadman was Waxahachie ISD employee Pam Johnson, which an open records request will reveal exactly what all she has been receiving and sending in the form of e-mails from her WISD e-mail address (and yes, it was filed, and yes, I will be awaiting for the results of that request.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bethany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bethany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith - maybe I wasn&#039;t clear. I wasn&#039;t impuning you - I agree that it&#039;s highly unlikely that you would put that in your post.

I&#039;ll be a little more clear: Perhaps someone there allowed someone with an ax to grind that did not work there to &quot;edit&quot; your post. Allowing such a thing would indeed let them gray-shade their response to their boss by saying, &quot;No I didn&#039;t edit or change anything.&quot; Technically, they did not. Someone else did. Upon further questioning, however, they&#039;d be forced to either lie or tell the entire truth.

But since Mr. Dauben said he asked, and they said no, I&#039;m hazarding a guess that he only asked them if they did it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith &#8211; maybe I wasn&#8217;t clear. I wasn&#8217;t impuning you &#8211; I agree that it&#8217;s highly unlikely that you would put that in your post.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be a little more clear: Perhaps someone there allowed someone with an ax to grind that did not work there to &#8220;edit&#8221; your post. Allowing such a thing would indeed let them gray-shade their response to their boss by saying, &#8220;No I didn&#8217;t edit or change anything.&#8221; Technically, they did not. Someone else did. Upon further questioning, however, they&#8217;d be forced to either lie or tell the entire truth.</p>
<p>But since Mr. Dauben said he asked, and they said no, I&#8217;m hazarding a guess that he only asked them if they did it.</p>
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		<title>By: CB</title>
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		<dc:creator>CB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 02:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted two comments on Dauben&#039;s blog regarding this situation and he removed my postings.  To me, it confirms that he is guilty at changing and/or deleting comments that are posted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted two comments on Dauben&#8217;s blog regarding this situation and he removed my postings.  To me, it confirms that he is guilty at changing and/or deleting comments that are posted.</p>
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