Comments on: My Big Fat Gay Thank You http://www.treygarrison.com/2009/03/my-big-fat-gay-thank-you/ Plausibly Undeniable Sat, 04 Sep 2010 01:28:37 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Rawlins Gilliland http://www.treygarrison.com/2009/03/my-big-fat-gay-thank-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4923 Rawlins Gilliland Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:45:08 +0000 http://www.treygarrison.com/?p=1502#comment-4923 <b>John, remember: </b> Back on message-First and foremost~~, Trey is a gun-twirling, flame-throwingr anarchist libertarian. On a good day. So he is an equal opportunity offender ---meaning that Trey probably believes any employer should be able to deny anything and everything to his or her emploees that he or she wants to and that the only 'benefits' he'd grant is one daily break to a Port-a-Pot in an unpaved parking lot. where one can eat and piss and smoke in unison. Just guessing. John, remember: Back on message-First and foremost~~, Trey is a gun-twirling, flame-throwingr anarchist libertarian. On a good day. So he is an equal opportunity offender —meaning that Trey probably believes any employer should be able to deny anything and everything to his or her emploees that he or she wants to and that the only ‘benefits’ he’d grant is one daily break to a Port-a-Pot in an unpaved parking lot. where one can eat and piss and smoke in unison. Just guessing.

]]> By: John Wright http://www.treygarrison.com/2009/03/my-big-fat-gay-thank-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4922 John Wright Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:15:25 +0000 http://www.treygarrison.com/?p=1502#comment-4922 It's exactly the same thing. You said employers should be allowed to deny benefits to gays and lesbians. I can see a possible exemption for religious institutions, but allowing private corporations to do this would be unfair. It’s exactly the same thing. You said employers should be allowed to deny benefits to gays and lesbians. I can see a possible exemption for religious institutions, but allowing private corporations to do this would be unfair.

]]> By: Tom http://www.treygarrison.com/2009/03/my-big-fat-gay-thank-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4917 Tom Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:24:55 +0000 http://www.treygarrison.com/?p=1502#comment-4917 Rawlins brings up something I often think about. Why are gays and lesbians immediately labeled based on who they're attracted to? Or blacks and Latinos labeled because of their race? Or rednecks because of their way of life? My parents did their best to teach me to treat everyone I encounter as a fellow human being. Of course, I notice a person's appearance, but rarely see them as a label. I like to think others are the same way. Rawlins brings up something I often think about. Why are gays and lesbians immediately labeled based on who they’re attracted to? Or blacks and Latinos labeled because of their race? Or rednecks because of their way of life?
My parents did their best to teach me to treat everyone I encounter as a fellow human being. Of course, I notice a person’s appearance, but rarely see them as a label. I like to think others are the same way.

]]> By: Trey Garrison http://www.treygarrison.com/2009/03/my-big-fat-gay-thank-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4915 Trey Garrison Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:04:54 +0000 http://www.treygarrison.com/?p=1502#comment-4915 No, John. Not remotely the same thing. No, John. Not remotely the same thing.

]]> By: John Wright http://www.treygarrison.com/2009/03/my-big-fat-gay-thank-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4914 John Wright Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:58:22 +0000 http://www.treygarrison.com/?p=1502#comment-4914 Trey, So employers should also be free to withhold benefits to the spouse of a black person? John Wright Trey,
So employers should also be free to withhold benefits to the spouse of a black person?
John Wright

]]> By: Trey Garrison http://www.treygarrison.com/2009/03/my-big-fat-gay-thank-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4909 Trey Garrison Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:45:11 +0000 http://www.treygarrison.com/?p=1502#comment-4909 As usual, well said, Rawlins. Still learning that lesson everyday. Thank you. As usual, well said, Rawlins. Still learning that lesson everyday. Thank you.

]]> By: Rawlins Gilliland http://www.treygarrison.com/2009/03/my-big-fat-gay-thank-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4908 Rawlins Gilliland Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:37:01 +0000 http://www.treygarrison.com/?p=1502#comment-4908 <b>A subtext</b> to this is how easily one can be…or appear…careless or otherwise be seen as ‘insensitive’ to the nuance of others when they are traveling routinely with their own flock rather than interacting routinely with alterative individuals or herds. Yes people can be quick to see some slight or over-react. But too, one can walk into a blind alley effortlessly if one is not more widely exposed to (yep) the diversity that lies within any demographic. Someone’s Latino? So you assume they like Mexican food. Never mind they’re from Colombia and the cuisine there is altogether different. And spicy anything hardly exists so skip those peppers. Please. Gay? Are you an urban gay who loved the bars and disco and see-and-be-seen-scene with its axis in Oak Lawn who loved Mariah Carey in ‘Glitter’? Or the gay national guard female down the street who is on her third deployment to the middle east. Or her gay brother who is married with two children and lives in Farmer’s Branch where he teaches in a church affiliated private school? Maybe you meant the Mexican immigrant gay male who was the produce manager at my neighborhood Carnival supermarket who now manages a Dollar Store in Balch Springs. For every Tim Gunn on Project Runway there is a John Loza (openly gay former Dallas mayor Pro-Tem and city council person who was also my attorney when I successfully took the Dallas Police to a jury trial for false arrest.) If on any given day, say…….everyone who is gay stood up at, for instance, Mi Cocina in Highland Park, you’d be shocked to realize it’s as high a percentage probably as at the Black Eyed Pea on Cedar Springs. They’re just in a parallel universe of either independent travel and/or flying beneath the gaydar. A subtext to this is how easily one can be…or appear…careless or otherwise be seen as ‘insensitive’ to the nuance of others when they are traveling routinely with their own flock rather than interacting routinely with alterative individuals or herds. Yes people can be quick to see some slight or over-react. But too, one can walk into a blind alley effortlessly if one is not more widely exposed to (yep) the diversity that lies within any demographic.

Someone’s Latino? So you assume they like Mexican food. Never mind they’re from Colombia and the cuisine there is altogether different. And spicy anything hardly exists so skip those peppers. Please.

Gay? Are you an urban gay who loved the bars and disco and see-and-be-seen-scene with its axis in Oak Lawn who loved Mariah Carey in ‘Glitter’? Or the gay national guard female down the street who is on her third deployment to the middle east. Or her gay brother who is married with two children and lives in Farmer’s Branch where he teaches in a church affiliated private school? Maybe you meant the Mexican immigrant gay male who was the produce manager at my neighborhood Carnival supermarket who now manages a Dollar Store in Balch Springs. For every Tim Gunn on Project Runway there is a John Loza (openly gay former Dallas mayor Pro-Tem and city council person who was also my attorney when I successfully took the Dallas Police to a jury trial for false arrest.)

If on any given day, say…….everyone who is gay stood up at, for instance, Mi Cocina in Highland Park, you’d be shocked to realize it’s as high a percentage probably as at the Black Eyed Pea on Cedar Springs. They’re just in a parallel universe of either independent travel and/or flying beneath the gaydar.

]]> By: Bethany http://www.treygarrison.com/2009/03/my-big-fat-gay-thank-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4896 Bethany Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:45:55 +0000 http://www.treygarrison.com/?p=1502#comment-4896 Really, I think that there should be nothing offered but civil unions, whether it be two men, two women, a man and a woman, or a box turtle and a .... If state laws on sodomy, etc., are being overturned and abolished all the time, it's hard to reason that it should still be allowed to weigh in on the allowed make up of a couple. A civil union should be a legal device for couples to have available for things like insurance, estate planning, child custody, and dissolution, etc. Really, I think that there should be nothing offered but civil unions, whether it be two men, two women, a man and a woman, or a box turtle and a ….

If state laws on sodomy, etc., are being overturned and abolished all the time, it’s hard to reason that it should still be allowed to weigh in on the allowed make up of a couple. A civil union should be a legal device for couples to have available for things like insurance, estate planning, child custody, and dissolution, etc.

]]> By: Trey Garrison http://www.treygarrison.com/2009/03/my-big-fat-gay-thank-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4886 Trey Garrison Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:39:52 +0000 http://www.treygarrison.com/?p=1502#comment-4886 True enough, Tom. But I suspect there would be some churches that would accept the gays getting married. And no one outside the church would have to recognize anything the various churches on either side do. The only requirement would be the law would have to treat all marriage contracts between consenting adults in any combination as they would any other contract. And employers would be -- or should be -- free to offer or withhold benefits to spouses as they see fit. The marriage contracts would be only for property issues, inheritance, hospital access, and other civil, legal issues that arise among married people. True enough, Tom. But I suspect there would be some churches that would accept the gays getting married. And no one outside the church would have to recognize anything the various churches on either side do.

The only requirement would be the law would have to treat all marriage contracts between consenting adults in any combination as they would any other contract.

And employers would be — or should be — free to offer or withhold benefits to spouses as they see fit. The marriage contracts would be only for property issues, inheritance, hospital access, and other civil, legal issues that arise among married people.

]]> By: Tom http://www.treygarrison.com/2009/03/my-big-fat-gay-thank-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4885 Tom Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:36:52 +0000 http://www.treygarrison.com/?p=1502#comment-4885 Churches already decide who can get married inside their doors, and by their clergy. I'm guessing the average gay couple, finally able to marry and enjoy equal rights as the rest of us, wouldn't choose First Baptist Dallas for their nuptuals. Churches already decide who can get married inside their doors, and by their clergy. I’m guessing the average gay couple, finally able to marry and enjoy equal rights as the rest of us, wouldn’t choose First Baptist Dallas for their nuptuals.

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