whatever the crowd size it was large and it doesn’t really matter if beck and FNC were promoting it, if it wasn’t important these thousands of folks wouldn’t have spent their time and money to come to DC
forgot to mention that there were ancillary protests were taking place at venues around the country on Friday and Saturday. IIRC Fort Worth had one on Friday nite, but I doubt if the local papers covered it
I’m concerned about government spending too. But I don’t feel the need to travel to D.C. on my own dime and march with what is, arguably, a racist mob on the fringes.
So, Tom, I guess contacting my congress critters, and voicing my opposition is racist, too. I guess saying anything negative about the policies being thrown about in D.C. is racist, when you look at it that way. Since you mentioned you were concerned, that could be construed as a negative sentiment, which makes you a racist, just like the people who attended the rally in D.C.
All I can say is enough with the race card. It’s getting worn out, and isn’t going to be valid when it is actually needed.
9/12 demonstration a record DC turnout: National Park Service
Thomas Lifson
The truth will out. Despite mainstream media attempts to characterize turnout as in the thousands, a spokesman for the National Park Service, Dan Bana, is quoted as saying “It is a record…. We believe it is the largest event held in Washington, D.C., ever.”
That’s not at all what I said, S.E. I think there’s room for respectful debate and dissention. There’s no room for racism, and you can’t deny that some of these protesters are racially motivated. I will admit to being wrong in saying that the protests themselves are based on the race of the president.
I’m frustrated with the media for focusing on those protesters who are focused on race and/or debunked theories about his birth.
The Bush White House borrowed more money from foreign countries than all previous administrations combined. The Bush White House started two wars without a budget adjustment to pay for it.
The Obama White House has continued to spend money and add to the debt and deficit, and invest in both Wall Street and the auto industry. Unless it comes up with a plan to reduce the deficit and what we owe other nations, all we’ll have to turn to is a Skittles shitting unicorn.
“There’s no room for racism, and you can’t deny that some of these protesters are racially motivated. “
Actually, unless you have some evidence to support that accusation, I can deny it.
Crying racism is like crying wolf, there are wolves out there, but rarely in the direction that you are pointing.
“The Bush White House borrowed more money from foreign countries than all previous administrations combined.”
It took Bush eight years to accomplish that (though I doubt you’ll find many conservatives who will support him in it). Obama will pass it in his first year, and by White House estimates (now revised) the US will run trillion dollar deficits for the next ten years.
“The Obama White House has continued to spend money and add to the debt and deficit, and invest in both Wall Street and the auto industry.”
Invest? Throwing money at failed companies, many of whom went bankrupt anyway, is not an investment.
If our government continues to use the same budgetary tactics as an Uptown thirty thousand dollar millionaire, our government will cease to function. Calling people who are legitimately concerned about this a “racist mob” is a poor tactic that will ultimately fail, miserably.
I’m not going to call this woman a racist, but her sign is clearly racially motivated, and I find it offensive. Not obscene, but inappropriate: http://www.flickr.com/photos/42406957@N04/3912840785/
As the video linked in this post proves, she represents a small portion of the hundreds of thousands who marched in Washington. But that small portion hurts the credibility of a group that is clearly frustrated with the government’s out of control spending.
There are many other links out there documenting racist signage, Tom.
That said, Dallasite, I don’t think that these protests are, at root, racist; however, they do provide a platform for a certain element to vent their racism. And, you know, out of the hundreds of protesters I’ve seen, there has been precisely one black.
I would never accuse all, or even most, people who disagree with me of being racist. That would be like accusing people who disagree with a given war effort of denigrating the veterans of that effort.
I furnish myself with copious quantities of both amusement and insight by reading these discussions, but substituting the word “witchcraft” for “racism”, and depending on the context, “witch”, “witches” or “witchcraft” for “racist.”
Honestly, I went to the event in Ft. Worth… those people are the opposite of racist.
Rednecky… some, White trashy… quite a bit, regular folks MOSTLY, Black.. some… but mainly overall individuals who are sick of big government spending, and most that I spoke with are sick of Republicans and Democrats,
I think this really shouldn’t be about Obama, Obama, Obama, it should be about the issues, and what we do or don’t like about them. Focusing on the person… as with George Bush as well, is not helpful… George Bush didn’t set his policy and neither does Obama. They are just the mouth piece.
Let’s stop the crap and focus on the issues.
You would be surprised how similar Bush and Obama are on core issues.
You can’t have the American dream, if you there is no more America.
“Tea Party” leader Mark Williams appeared on a CNN panel on “Anderson Cooper 360″ last night and promptly set to work discrediting himself and his movement. Williams denounced those carrying blatantly racist signs against President Obama during the tea parties as “no more part of the mainstream of America than the hippies who wear nipple clips and feather boas in San Francisco streets during so-called peace demonstrations.”
Cooper had done his homework, however, and caught Williams blatantly misrepresenting himself: “What you’re saying makes sense to me here when I’m hearing what you say but then I read on your blog, you say, you call the President an Indonesian Muslim turned welfare thug and a racist in chief.”
Williams shrugs and responds, “Yeah, that’s the way he’s behaving.” An incredulous Cooper asks Williams if he really believes Obama is an Indonesian Muslim and a welfare thug. The tea party leader digs the hole a little deeper: “He’s certainly acting like it. Until he embraces the whole country what else can I conclude.”
I didn’t like Bush’s domestic spending and or the vast increase in regulations that were written during his administration. I believe the number of new regulations under Bush came to about 70K. I don’t like the spending under Obama either. Nor do I like the forays into the private sector that our government is taking in finance, insurance, the auto companies and soon, likely, healthcare. The issues aren’t about Obama, but he has made himself very much front and center of all these issues. He has made it about himself.
Rep. Kevin Brady asked for an explanation of why the government-run subway system didn’t, in his view, adequately prepare for this past weekend’s rally to protest government spending and government services.
Seriously.
The Texas Republican on Wednesday released a letter he sent to Washington’s Metro system complaining that the taxpayer-funded subway system was unable to properly transport protesters to the rally to protest government spending and expansion.
“You would be surprised how similar Bush and Obama are on core issues.”
True to some extent…but Bush was in favor of the United States general. He was on our side. He wanted us to win, and he thought our allies in Eastern Europe were important, that Castro and Chavez were bad and that Iran having a nuke was a bad idea.
They didn’t call Farrakahn’s Million Man March racist…
Angry Racist Mob on Sept. 12 Actually Reagan-era zombies returned from suspended animation by Dick Cheney’s voodoo priest.
two different looks at the crowd size
http://bit.ly/RBKB1
http://bit.ly/vveSn
whatever the crowd size it was large and it doesn’t really matter if beck and FNC were promoting it, if it wasn’t important these thousands of folks wouldn’t have spent their time and money to come to DC
forgot to mention that there were ancillary protests were taking place at venues around the country on Friday and Saturday. IIRC Fort Worth had one on Friday nite, but I doubt if the local papers covered it
I’m concerned about government spending too. But I don’t feel the need to travel to D.C. on my own dime and march with what is, arguably, a racist mob on the fringes.
So, Tom, I guess contacting my congress critters, and voicing my opposition is racist, too. I guess saying anything negative about the policies being thrown about in D.C. is racist, when you look at it that way. Since you mentioned you were concerned, that could be construed as a negative sentiment, which makes you a racist, just like the people who attended the rally in D.C.
All I can say is enough with the race card. It’s getting worn out, and isn’t going to be valid when it is actually needed.
@S.E. – totally agree with you.
9/12 demonstration a record DC turnout: National Park Service
Thomas Lifson
The truth will out. Despite mainstream media attempts to characterize turnout as in the thousands, a spokesman for the National Park Service, Dan Bana, is quoted as saying “It is a record…. We believe it is the largest event held in Washington, D.C., ever.”
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/09/912_demonstration_a_record_dc.html
That’s not at all what I said, S.E. I think there’s room for respectful debate and dissention. There’s no room for racism, and you can’t deny that some of these protesters are racially motivated. I will admit to being wrong in saying that the protests themselves are based on the race of the president.
I’m frustrated with the media for focusing on those protesters who are focused on race and/or debunked theories about his birth.
The Bush White House borrowed more money from foreign countries than all previous administrations combined. The Bush White House started two wars without a budget adjustment to pay for it.
The Obama White House has continued to spend money and add to the debt and deficit, and invest in both Wall Street and the auto industry. Unless it comes up with a plan to reduce the deficit and what we owe other nations, all we’ll have to turn to is a Skittles shitting unicorn.
“There’s no room for racism, and you can’t deny that some of these protesters are racially motivated. “
Actually, unless you have some evidence to support that accusation, I can deny it.
Crying racism is like crying wolf, there are wolves out there, but rarely in the direction that you are pointing.
“The Bush White House borrowed more money from foreign countries than all previous administrations combined.”
It took Bush eight years to accomplish that (though I doubt you’ll find many conservatives who will support him in it). Obama will pass it in his first year, and by White House estimates (now revised) the US will run trillion dollar deficits for the next ten years.
“The Obama White House has continued to spend money and add to the debt and deficit, and invest in both Wall Street and the auto industry.”
Invest? Throwing money at failed companies, many of whom went bankrupt anyway, is not an investment.
If our government continues to use the same budgetary tactics as an Uptown thirty thousand dollar millionaire, our government will cease to function. Calling people who are legitimately concerned about this a “racist mob” is a poor tactic that will ultimately fail, miserably.
There can’t be any racists there — because there aren’t any black people, and black people are the real racists.
Remember: Tortured reasoning makes us safer as a nation.
P.S. Where are their little fez hats?
“There can’t be any racists there — because there aren’t any black people, and black people are the real racists.”
Do you have a point, or are you just accusing everyone that disagrees with you of being a racist?
I’m not going to call this woman a racist, but her sign is clearly racially motivated, and I find it offensive. Not obscene, but inappropriate:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/42406957@N04/3912840785/
As the video linked in this post proves, she represents a small portion of the hundreds of thousands who marched in Washington. But that small portion hurts the credibility of a group that is clearly frustrated with the government’s out of control spending.
There are many other links out there documenting racist signage, Tom.
That said, Dallasite, I don’t think that these protests are, at root, racist; however, they do provide a platform for a certain element to vent their racism. And, you know, out of the hundreds of protesters I’ve seen, there has been precisely one black.
I would never accuse all, or even most, people who disagree with me of being racist. That would be like accusing people who disagree with a given war effort of denigrating the veterans of that effort.
I furnish myself with copious quantities of both amusement and insight by reading these discussions, but substituting the word “witchcraft” for “racism”, and depending on the context, “witch”, “witches” or “witchcraft” for “racist.”
Honestly, I went to the event in Ft. Worth… those people are the opposite of racist.
Rednecky… some, White trashy… quite a bit, regular folks MOSTLY, Black.. some… but mainly overall individuals who are sick of big government spending, and most that I spoke with are sick of Republicans and Democrats,
I think this really shouldn’t be about Obama, Obama, Obama, it should be about the issues, and what we do or don’t like about them. Focusing on the person… as with George Bush as well, is not helpful… George Bush didn’t set his policy and neither does Obama. They are just the mouth piece.
Let’s stop the crap and focus on the issues.
You would be surprised how similar Bush and Obama are on core issues.
You can’t have the American dream, if you there is no more America.
Do I always have to screw up my quotes… geez.
“You can’t have the American dream, if there is no more America”
Agreed.
This is not about Obama, the person, or Bush for me. It’s my general growing dislike of everything government.
And then there’s this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/15/tea-party-leader-melts-do_n_286933.html
“Tea Party” leader Mark Williams appeared on a CNN panel on “Anderson Cooper 360″ last night and promptly set to work discrediting himself and his movement. Williams denounced those carrying blatantly racist signs against President Obama during the tea parties as “no more part of the mainstream of America than the hippies who wear nipple clips and feather boas in San Francisco streets during so-called peace demonstrations.”
Cooper had done his homework, however, and caught Williams blatantly misrepresenting himself: “What you’re saying makes sense to me here when I’m hearing what you say but then I read on your blog, you say, you call the President an Indonesian Muslim turned welfare thug and a racist in chief.”
Williams shrugs and responds, “Yeah, that’s the way he’s behaving.” An incredulous Cooper asks Williams if he really believes Obama is an Indonesian Muslim and a welfare thug. The tea party leader digs the hole a little deeper: “He’s certainly acting like it. Until he embraces the whole country what else can I conclude.”
“This is not about Obama, the person, or Bush for me. It’s my general growing dislike of everything government.” Amanda
Word…
I didn’t like Bush’s domestic spending and or the vast increase in regulations that were written during his administration. I believe the number of new regulations under Bush came to about 70K. I don’t like the spending under Obama either. Nor do I like the forays into the private sector that our government is taking in finance, insurance, the auto companies and soon, likely, healthcare. The issues aren’t about Obama, but he has made himself very much front and center of all these issues. He has made it about himself.
AND THEN THERE’S THIS:
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/09/16/tea-party-protesters-protest-dc-metro-service/
Protesters who attended Saturday’s Tea Party rally in Washington found a new reason to be upset: Apparently they are unhappy with the level of service provided by the subway system.
Rep. Kevin Brady asked for an explanation of why the government-run subway system didn’t, in his view, adequately prepare for this past weekend’s rally to protest government spending and government services.
Seriously.
The Texas Republican on Wednesday released a letter he sent to Washington’s Metro system complaining that the taxpayer-funded subway system was unable to properly transport protesters to the rally to protest government spending and expansion.
“You would be surprised how similar Bush and Obama are on core issues.”
True to some extent…but Bush was in favor of the United States general. He was on our side. He wanted us to win, and he thought our allies in Eastern Europe were important, that Castro and Chavez were bad and that Iran having a nuke was a bad idea.