***MONDAY UPDATE: Here’s why these quotes are so plausible — Barry has been on board the redistribution train for a long time. This is a link to an NPR interview with Barry, circa 2001, in his own words and voice. Enjoy.***
There are many who will defend the ‘free market.’ But who will defend the single mother of four working three jobs. When a system is allowed to be free at the expense of its citizens, then it is tyranny.
… the Constitution allows for many things, but what it does not allow is the most revealing. The so-called Founders did not allow for economic freedom. While political freedom is supposedly a cornerstone of the document, the distribution of wealth is not even mentioned. While many believed that the new Constitution gave them liberty, it instead fitted them with the shackles of hypocrisy.
This is from the college thesis written by Barack Obama.
I’d give you the rest for context, but it’s sealed like a state secret. Hmmmm.
If Barry has his doubts about the constitution, is it okay for me to have my doubts about him?
Update Friday Afternoon: The source for this particular Obama endorsement of redistribution appears questionable.
“A man should move out of his mother’s basement before demanding services paid for by others.”
How macho! Don’t you demand a few services paid for by others? Or are you some kind of stud-muffin island unto yourself?
“How macho! Don’t you demand a few services paid for by others? Or are you some kind of stud-muffin island unto yourself?”
No, and yes.
Ah, so ‘libertarians’ don’t demand that we collectively pay for police, and firemen, and a big military, and roads, bridges, traffic lights, sewer systems, electrical grids, internets, etc,
Libertarians do all of this by themselves, for themselves. What a macho bunch.
“Ah, so ‘libertarians’ don’t demand that we collectively pay for police, and firemen, and a big military, and roads, bridges, traffic lights, sewer systems, electrical grids, internets, etc,”
1. I’m not a Libertarian.
2. Police, fire, military, roads, bridges, traffic lights, sewer, electric grids(privately owned by the way), etc. benefit everyone, not just a few. The healthcare plan is intended to take from one segment of society for the sole benefit of another segment of society. So your comparison is the equivalent of apples and engine blocks.
3. I pay far more than my fair share of taxes, both personal and business. The mom’s basement crowd have a tendency to pay little tax, yet demand that others pay more.
“Libertarians do all of this by themselves, for themselves. What a macho bunch.”
While I agree with certain Libertarian concepts, such as a much smaller government, I believe that a certain amount of regulation is necessary for Capitalism to work. I’m vehemently opposed to the legalization of drugs, and while I’m pretty moderate when it comes to social issues, I do believe that we need laws protecting social order. I’m more of a Conservative.
As far as being macho, I’m certainly not a tree hugging, Oprah watching liberal, that’s for sure.
“The healthcare plan is intended to take from one segment of society for the sole benefit of another segment of society.”
No, that’s just your shallow, self-interest showing through. Our society and culture is far too large and complex to allow big portions of it to be diseased with no access to treatment and care. “Your fair share” is just another manifestation of greedy, self-centeredness. You’re the one acting like a spoiled child.
“No, that’s just your shallow, self-interest showing through. Our society and culture is far too large and complex to allow big portions of it to be diseased with no access to treatment and care.”
Nothing is impossible for the person that doesn’t have to pay for it, right?
Why should I have to pay more taxes so that you can have “free” healthcare?
“”Your fair share†is just another manifestation of greedy, self-centeredness. You’re the one acting like a spoiled child.”
Taking someone else’s money for your benefit is not compassion, and not wanting that money taken is not greed. You should have to work for what you receive, just like us grown ups do.
“Why should I have to pay more taxes so that you can have “free†healthcare?”
Nothing’s free. I’m paying taxes. Everyone who can, pays taxes. Stop being such a crybaby. Share your toys or watch the US mortality rate make Haiti look enlightened.
“Share your toys or watch the US mortality rate make Haiti look enlightened.”
You’d have us be taxed to death so that our economy resembles Haiti.
“Everyone who can, pays taxes.”
Unfortunately today that is only about 50% of the population. The rest pay no income taxes.
“Unfortunately today that is only about 50% of the population. The rest pay no income taxes.”
Yeah, screw them. No taxes, no health care.
“Yeah, screw them. No taxes, no health care.”
Why do they deserve healthcare at my expense? Dump the emotional diatribe and explain why my standard of living should drop so that they can buy something else instead of health insurance?
Are productive citizens mere tax cattle owned by the state on a government-controlled ranch called America?
Is our sole purpose to be branded, fed, and herded, producing units of income to be milked by the government for redistribution to politically favored constituencies?
“Are productive citizens mere tax cattle owned by the state on a government-controlled ranch called America?”
Just the opposite. They are individuals that should be responsible for their own lives instead of relying on others to provide for them. You would make them slaves of the state.
Anonymous2 is agreeing with you, “Dallasite.” Pay attention. Redistribution of wealth is commie-mommie evil. I’m suprised you guys pay taxes at all with your survival of the fittest mentality. If they can’t afford their own health care, fuck ‘em. Let ‘em die. Who cares?
“Yeah, screw them. No taxes, no health care.”
Ah, Anonymous, apparently you miss the whole point of Mr. Obama’s healthcare program. It is precisely those people to whom he wishes to enslave the taxpayers. That is, in fact, the whole point of all government schemes to help the poor. Indeed it is the point of wealth redistribution. Did you miss something in the explanation of what this is all about?
“You would make them slaves of the state.”
You would make them the slaves of corporate CEOs. whose only motive is profit.
“You would make them the slaves of corporate CEOs. whose only motive is profit.”
As opposed to politicians whose only motive is power…
So are we slaves of the state or slaves of the politicians? Your ambiguity is somewhat understandable, given the ‘state’ is fast becoming indistinguishable from the corporate world.
The difference between the power of the state and the power of the corporate world is the power of force. The state can legitimize the use of force for its own ends. That is a huge difference. If you don’t understand that, you deserve whatever miserable state of mind you live in.
“The state can legitimize the use of force for its own ends. That is a huge difference.”
But corporations, by means of lobbying and campaign contributions, can co-opt the state and use the state’s ostensibly legitimate powers to pad corporate balance sheets and enrich corporate executives, so it’s not really different at all.
“But corporations, by means of lobbying and campaign contributions, can co-opt the state and use the state’s ostensibly legitimate powers to pad corporate balance sheets and enrich corporate executives, so it’s not really different at all.”
If you don’t see the difference, I doubt any explaining will help. You also give a good reason for keeping government out of meddling in business. The greater government involvement in business the greater the opportunity for corruption. Look at Fannie, Freddie, Countrywide . . . . . the list is long.
More good news for open-borders libertarians.
Muslim unrest hits US homes – Honor killings are on the rise
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/muslim_unrest_hits_us_homes_swfI0VrpBFYtz0nsxzOpoJ
“More good news for open-borders libertarians.”
Unless you are an Indigenous American, i.e. an American Indian, you or your ancestors were immigrants too. So, maybe they should have been sent packing. At least it would have saved us from idiotic posts like that one.